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I added the rewrite tag because I think this should be rewritten to look like green's or black's same section. These Mechanics need to be expanded upon instead of just having one short sentence. --GeoMike 03:33, 3 April 2008 (BST)

I think I'm going to really tear/tone this article down so that its easier to take in and so that other people can improve the other color articles to fit the form better. This means removing a lot of the 'individual expression' section and toning down the main flavor area. I really attempted to do Black, and I just don't seem to have the same passion for the color pie any more since I've quit the game. I'd like some more opinions on this though. --Zyrakris 02:09, 27 December 2008 (PST)

Links[edit source]

MM (talk!) 09:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Old mana symbol.[edit source]

If anybody knows anything about the change of the white mana symbol between revised and 4th, please write something about it in the article. (I would do this job if I know anything about the change ..) --Hó-òh, Diskussion, 15:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

White Comparison with Fascism and Communism (and its absurdities)[edit source]

I'm not going to edit this article myself right now, but there is a great deal of well-intentioned confusion tangled up in it. For example, White is described as nurturing to both Fascism and Communism. The writer does not seem to understand that Fascism and Communism are opposing ideologies, and this is not a point that can be shrugged off. For instance, Communism is an inherently transnational ideology that promotes the dissolution of borders and the merging of sovereign states under international laws, regulations, banks etc. This fact should not require citation for anyone who knows real history and understands communism but I will be happy to provide sources if necessary. Meanwhile, Fascism is nationalistic, believes strongly in borders and rejects all forms of transnational imperialism. Fascism itself is not a good term to use to describe white, however, because in common parlance it is understood to be synonymous with an angry warmongering mad-man (via Hitler), death camps, and the rest of the allied propaganda drilled into your heads. Even if this were not the case, as I will describe shortly, Fascism is still a terrible descriptor. I will point out (as an aside) that Hitler feared a Bolshevik uprising in Germany, which he had witnessed and studied intensely in nearby Russia, an uprising that cost the lives of tens of millions of Russian Orthodox Christians (the biggest death toll in the history of mankind). Bolshevik newspapers were already organizing plots to overthrow the German government as Hitler was rising to power. These individuals were funded directly by transnational banks (the Rothschilds et al) and their express and explicit goal was for communist Bolshevism to spread throughout Europe, which is what Marx, Lenin and the rest had hoped and predicted. Hitler saw Germany as a firewall and believed it was the German duty to stop the Bolshevik threat; I will point out that he invaded Poland because Bolshevist activists there were literally murdering ethnic Germans who had been separated as a result of the Treaty of Versailles after WWI (when Germany was broken up and ethnic Germans were left stranded in Poland). They were doing this to punish Germans for Hitler's expressly anti-Bolshevist rise and to antagonize him/Germany into war. I know this isn't politically correct (read: Allied) history, but it does have the advantage of being true. In any case, it disturbs me to see White described so inaccurately based on faulty understanding. A correct way to describe white would be that it is an ideology of subsidiarity. I say this because white is almost always identified with medieval Europe. Nothing describes medieval Europe quite so well as Distributism and Subsidiarity, which are ideologies that promote tradition, the family unit, biblical ideals, local problems solved by local governemnt, and so forth. "Fascism" is hardly an accurate descriptor for White, since White's (almost exclusively biblical) ideals have absolutely no connection to Fascism, let alone Communism. Distributism and Subsidiarity value the family (or tribe if you prefer) first, then the community, then the region, then the state/nation, in that order. This can be seen reflected in white's tribal mechanics, followed by broader mechanics (such as color), with a constant biblical flavor (Wrath of God, angels, Knights, Crusades, and on and on). I've read white compared to non-biblical ideologies that white would certainly outright reject (if it were brought to life) such as Fascism on other sites, and it has always bothered me. I could honestly write a book about this but I will spare those who probably do not care or are unable to question ingrained belief systems. Cheers to all. 19:32, 25 October 2015 (UTC) Andromedus