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I know this article overlaps quite a bit with the planeswalkers category, but I think this article is more useful as a list of 'walkers than the category since its more easy to find the distinction between pre/post rev walkers as well as unconfirmed 'walkers and demoted 'walkers on this list. Plus this list is (almost) complete, whereas the category does not include info on the 'walkers that not yet have their own articles. The Squirle master 04:15, 2 July 2006 (CDT)

As we found that in Planeswalker book, Yawgmoth is called planeswalker by Serra and Urza (and evrybody assumed that until The Thran revised it), we should remove him from the list of pre-rev planeswalkers... or maybe some other pre-rev source mentioned him to be one? MORT 06:24, 13 July 2006 (CDT)

Blackblade[edit source]

Should be be added to the post revisionist list without a card? Dominaria calls him a planeswalker.--J spencer93 (talk) 02:28, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

I suppose you mean Dakkon Blackblade, not the sword? Can you point us to the relevant text? --Hunter (talk) 07:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
It is in one of the Dominaria stories. I will look it up. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 07:31, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Actually it is the first Dominaria story. That was a quick search: Return to Dominaria, Part 1 - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 07:33, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Needle hesitated. The disciple at her side said, "It's said it was the Planeswalker Dakkon Bl—" is prob the most relevant part. So he is a planeswalker for sure in the new continuity. --J spencer93 (talk) 02:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
OK, feel free to make the necessary improvements --Hunter (talk) 05:19, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

I added him. The Wanderer and Davirel need added and updated. I put Davirel but I am not sure what to make his description. Teyo as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by J spencer93 (talkcontribs).

Apologize for not signing my post. Forgot. Anyways, added The Wander and Teyo and described them as best as possible while following the format of the others. --J spencer93 (talk) 17:56, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Planeswalker's colors[edit source]

Why are we suddenly splitting them amongst main and secondary colors? Also for the person that made they changes, they made a mistake. It was confirmed Ajani and Huatli lost Red, not that it's a secondary color.I am not against this change as I think it is more accurate but can we make it correct atleast? As it brings up an issue with walkers with confirmed secondary type like Davriel who aren't displayed on their card, so it almost would fit better on their pages. --J spencer93 (talk) 04:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I renamed previously to secondary, because I though that made a bit more sense. But I can change it back I have no strong feelings about that. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 04:47, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
The problem is they are 2 different things. Nissa is green and secondary blue. Ajani is white and secondary green, he lost red. So red isn't secondary, he no longer has it. This would be hard to show in the template. Good info for their pages though.
Also Rosewater explained multicolored walkers may appear as only their primary colors in this set, that doesn't make Blue on Nissa "previously" although it is "secondary" because she still has access to blue mana. I think you misunderstood that they were separate things.--J spencer93 (talk) 04:49, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I mean the current logic is more or less to put in the color of the last planeswalker card they had and add every color they had in a previous incarnation in the "secondary/previously" list. "Previously" is probably the better term because it establishes chronology.
That is a simple rule to follow and is also not ambiguous. Note that we only list the color and type information for characters which have a card, so it is literally the card information displayed there. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 04:57, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Although true, that doesn't make a ton of sense as we know Nissa and Tamiyo haven't lost their other colors though. Although I do believe this is the first time we ever getting a printing of a Planeswalker that does not match their confirmed manga types, is it not? (PS. Searching for the link on Blogatog where he tackles this)--J spencer93 (talk) 05:01, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/183915397008/so-nahiri-is-an-uncommon-because-no-other

Honestly it would make more sense to only put previously on those we know are previous. Below he directly handles this. By putting previously we are flat out putting false info on several. I know it's a little annoying but a wiki should show factual info.PS: love the change with the red X and Green checks, Its a good way to condense the page somewhat. --J spencer93 (talk) 05:13, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/183849229298/was-nissas-change-back-to-mono-colour-story-or

I was a bit fast with Tamiyo. Her latest card is not revealed yet, but we know it will not be a tri colored card and will probably be mono blue. (So yeah, I jumped the gun on this one.)
Nissa on the other hand lost blue. She had quite a lot of iterations after her GU experiment which show her as mono G walker, so yeah for whatever reason she stopped using blue mana. So she is G, previously U.
Ajani's last cards were always white/green so that is his color identity white and green. He no longer utilizes red therefore red is listed under previously. Same goes for Huatli.
In the end the current solution does reflect where the character currently stands and also trails that characters past experiences with different colors. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 05:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I mean simplest solution would be to remove all color information from the nav, but that would be a bit sad imo. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 05:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Dude....this is literally nissa's only card after the GU nissa except genesis mage (which she was confirmed having blue still in story at that time), what are you talking about? Also no, they are listed under previously as it has literally been stated they lost those colors, same with Sarkhan. You keep stating things that are flat out false.Also Rosewater above stating cards dont have a color just for this set doesn't = losing them. I am sorry, but rosewater's statements trump yours. --J spencer93 (talk) 05:43, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I would suggest continuing the discussion here Template talk:Planeswalker, because that is the proper place. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 06:12, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Niv-Mizzet[edit source]

Niv-Mizzet is not prerevesionist nor is he an elder dragon. Can people that don't know Magic stop changing this page. Noticed it was Yander....not sure why, do you have a source for it? Your literally putting whatever you want at this point without proof. Undid edits until an actual discussion could be held about the changes with rosewaters statements above taken into account. Also, based on the fact was added Niv Mizzet to prerevisionist elder dragons. --J spencer93 (talk) 05:35, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Could you please refer to the edit I made? I am pretty sure that I did not make Niv-Mizzet a pre-revisionist planeswalker. I mean he isn't even on this page. What are you talking about? - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 05:40, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I removed the mention of you as I made that mistake, someone added him to elder dragons at 5:03 under not planeswalkers. Its in the page history. And yea, he isn't on it because I removed him...also the history shows only me and you edited this page. This is childish as hell.--J spencer93 (talk) 05:44, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

There are a lot of other people editing this page. In fact this is a page I hardly touch. I searched for the edit where Niv-Mizzet was moved to the Elder Dragons. Here it is: https://mtg.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=List_of_planeswalkers&diff=prev&oldid=90112
That being said, your tone is currently unacceptable. You are surely very knowledgeable and passionate. That however gives you not the right to belittle other users and make wild accusations. Please temper yourself and we can discuss things further. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 06:09, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I literally said I made that mistake. I also didn't make a wild accusation, I mistyped and removed the mistype from above.I will apologize for thinking it was you (apparently I misread the history page, sue me). lol also...are we in medieval times, temper myself? Btw it was early morning here when I was posting last night, that is prob why i misread the history page --J spencer93 (talk) 15:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Unnamed Walkers[edit source]

Noticed someone added the Vishano walker so I added a few others that were unnamed. I will reread book to get better descriptions.--J spencer93 (talk) 03:03, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Wrenn and Six[edit source]

New Planeswalker Wrenn and Six needs a page. Info comes out at 11 EST today. Correction, the planeswalker is Wrenn, Six is one of his at least six treefolk he can pilot--J spencer93 (talk) 15:06, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Surviving Walkers[edit source]

https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/186017603928/how-has-modern-horizons-been-doing-as-far-as-sales Ill repost this here, but confirmation that out of all named walkers, only 3 died. So I removed the "they survived" or "its unknown if they did" from all the pages.--J spencer93 (talk) 15:10, 3 July 2019 (UTC)